Eowyn, Aragorn and Arwen - an analysis - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum
This Pin was discovered by Limwen. Discover (and save!) your own Pins on Pinterest. Observe that while the Arwen-Aragorn relationship is literary and explicit .. selfish of Aragorn to have the thought of marrying Arwen as a goal. My issue is with the way they had Eowyn moon over Aragorn in the films. . Yet I still miss that relationship because it says so much about both.
A further matter of importance is that Arwen and Aragorn's love story is the modern echo of an older, very important legend: It is told in The Silmarillion and in other posthumously published material. Arwen, Aragorn and their entourage are aware that that they are repeating history. In a long letter in the Letters of J. But the highest love-story, that of Aragorn and Arwen Elrond's daughter is only alluded to as a known thing.
I think the simple 'rustic' love of Sam and his Rosie nowhere elaborated is absolutely essential to the study of his the chief hero's character, and to the theme of the relation of ordinary life breathing, eating, working, begetting and quests, sacrifice, causes, and the 'longing for Elves', and sheer beauty.
And in a letter to Peter Hastings Also, in a never-sent draft Here I am only concerned with Death as part of the nature, physical and spiritual, of Man, and with Hope without guarantees. That is why I regard the tale of Arwen and Aragorn as the most important of the Appendices; it is part of the essential story, and is only placed so, because it could not be worked into the main narrative without destroying its structure: Tolkien highlights that Arwen perceived Frodo's unease after having been albeit briefly possessed by the Ring, which others including Gandalf had missed.
I do not myself see that the breaking of [Frodo's] mind and will under demonic pressure after torment was any more a moral failure than the breaking of his body would have been — say, by being strangled by Gollum, or crushed by a falling rock. That appears to have been the judgement of Gandalf and Aragorn and of all who learned the full story of his journey. Certainly nothing would be concealed by Frodo! But what Frodo himself felt about the events is quite another matter.
He appears at first to have had no sense of guilt III ; he was restored to sanity and peace. But then he thought that he had given his life in sacrifice: But he did not, and one can observe the disquiet growing in him.
Arwen was the first to observe the signs, and gave him her jewel for comfort, and thought of a way of healing him. As far as I know, this is never stated in The Lord of the Rings or any other non-posthumous material. What is meant is that it was Arwen who first thought of sending Frodo into the West, and put in a plea for him to Gandalf direct or through Galadriel, or bothand she used her own renunciation of the right to go West as an argument. Her renunciation and suffering were related to and enmeshed with Frodo's: Her prayer might therefore be specially effective, and her plan have a certain equity of exchange.
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Tolkien state that Arwen suggested that Frodo be allowed to sail West? My perception of Arwen in the movies is that her purpose in life is to love Aragorn, so I was asking, hey, is there anything more to this woman? I would hope there is, actually. I don't particularly like insipid characters. You don't get to see much of her in the book save for the appendixshe's not so much insipid as a minor character do you object to Rose, too?
There is definitely more to the woman, but you have to go outside LOTR to find it. All half-elves have to chose either the fate of men or the fate of elves. She chose the fate of men thus becoming mortal to be with Aragorn. Elrond chose the fate of elves and thus is immortal. Note that Aragorn is related to Arwen -- look at the genealogy, it's not as creepy as you might think!
He was brave and had helped to rescue her beloved uncle. That he was a king might have come up in the mixture I believe there is a comment about how "none seemed more kingly or noble to her than the Lord Aragorn Perhaps it was an infatuation, but it was also a strong love.
You can love a man without receiving any encouragement from him. You can love even if you have no chance. You can love, attributing things to him that aren't there But with Aragorn most of them really were there. Eowyn was in love. However, Aragorn was in love with Arwen. He also was about fifty years older than Eowyn Which she probably didn't realize at the time He was kind and understanding.
She was heart broken that he wasn't more. She went off on a suicide mission and happily found her true love That is one of the more wonderful things in the book.
Don't put Eowyn down. I sympathize with her totally. However, you shouldn't put Arwen down either. She had the strength to give up immortality and a father she loved.
I love the story of Aragorn and Arwen.
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It was so beautifully sad. I love all the subtle references to their devotion In Lothlorien on the hill and a few words to Galadriel, the scene where they are together in Rivendale in the room together and Arwen looks at Frodo That could've been done in the movie, but I believe there is more market if you can get a little physical in the relationship I believe that Aragorn and Arwen were content with occasionally holding hands, half out of respect for Elrond's wishes, half because Aragorn would not want to awaken too much by physical passion, knowing that he might very well fail and she would be forced to go over the sea without him We've spent the last century downgrading masculinity However, the kiss did look nice on the big screen, and I admit that I had a weakness for the spot myself.
I liked the movie, but I wish Arwen hadn't push Aragorn around so much I understand Aragorn's response to Eowyn and Eowyn's love for Aragorn.